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Realignment Today: Report pegs KU Chancellor Douglas Girod as part of Big 12's expansion committee

University of Kansas Chancellor Douglas Girod testifies at a congressional hearing on Tuesday, Feb. 11, 2020, that KU would support the opportunity for student-athletes to earn money through their name, image and likeness.

University of Kansas Chancellor Douglas Girod testifies at a congressional hearing on Tuesday, Feb. 11, 2020, that KU would support the opportunity for student-athletes to earn money through their name, image and likeness.

According to a Thursday report from the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal, it appears that University of Kansas Chancellor Douglas Girod is part of a sub-committee charged with looking into potential Big 12 expansion, as the winds of realignment blow back toward the middle of America.

In the report, Texas Tech Athletic Director Kirby Hocutt reportedly said he, Baylor AD Mack Rhoades and “presidents” from Iowa State and Kansas were on the committee.

Later in the story, Hocutt said the group had been expanded to include all Big 12 presidents.

A KU spokesperson did not immediately respond to a Journal-World inquiry about Girod’s spot on the committee.

It also has been reported by several outlets that the Big 12 has turned to former West Virginia AD and XFL Commissioner Oliver Luck to serve as a consultant to help the conference work through its realignment options.

The news of the Big 12 moving forward with expansion exploration came just hours after the Pac-12 announced its plan to “stand pat” rather than expand.

“Right now, our complete focus is to make the Big 12 as strong as it can possibly be,” Hocutt told the Avalanche-Journal. “And I expect that Texas Tech will play a leadership role in that. We’re going to continue to be part of the power-five structure in college athletics.”

With the Pac-12, ACC and Big Ten entering into an alliance that binds those three power conferences together — at least philosophically and perhaps even as voting partners — and with the SEC doing the powerhouse football thing in the southeast, the eight remaining Big 12 schools have some decisions to make.

From the day Oklahoma and Texas announced their plans to move to the SEC, the talk in the Big 12 has been about the remaining eight staying strong and loyal and seeing what options they might have next.

While it may seem on the surface like their hand has been forced and that expansion and salvaging some kind of TV deal for its future survival is the conference’s only move, that may not be the case for at least the next three to four years.

Remember, as things currently stand, OU and UT are not planning on leaving the Big 12 until the grant of rights agreement expires in 2025. That would give all 10 current Big 12 schools four more years of solid financial footing.

It’s important to remember that simply putting together a committee does not mean that expansion is inevitable. And it’s certainly not imminent. After all, the Pac-12 just proved that in a matter of a few days.

And while Pac-12 Commissioner George Kliavkoff said Thursday that the conference had no plans to expand, it is also important to remember that, in today’s wild times, that plan is more of a “that’s how we feel right now” sort of thing rather than an “it’s etched in stone forever” deal.

Things change. They always have. Things change often in college athletics these days. More so than ever before.

Best to be ready, or at least ready for Round 2 after getting blindsided the first time around.

According to the Avalanche-Journal report, the Big 12’s expansion committee is slated to meet Friday morning before a round of “in-person meetings next week involving Big 12 athletic directors and media and television consultants.”

“We’re continually talking to (Big 12) commissioner (Bob) Bowlsby as well as Oliver Luck,” Hocutt said in the story. “(We) feel very fortunate to have Oliver engaged in our con-versations in helping us navigate the waters, as well.

“There is a lot of interest in the Big 12 Conference," he added. “There is a lot of interest for people to be associated with us, to join with us. So we will take our time, be diligent and make sure we make the right strategic decisions for the long-term fu-ture.”

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Spencer Goff

I cannot wait for the comment section to light up at this news.....

1 year, 3 months ago

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Brett McCabe

So, the expansion committee of an 8 team league has expanded to include all eight teams.

This bunch of nimrods seems to be focused entirely on embarrassing the fans of each school.

Girod needs to be fired before sun up. The millions we spend on incompetent milktoast administrators would be better spent presenting scientific facts to trump supporters. Basically, just set the money on fire.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Tony Bandle

No middle ground on the last two sentences. :)

1 year, 3 months ago

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Brad Barker

So you would prefer that Girod and KU be the only school not participating in these meetings? I am strongly opposed to KU staying in B12 with the expansion options being tossed around. But being left out of the discussion seems like a bad move too.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Michael Maris

@ Brett,

Do you actually realize how much of a cry baby you're making yourself out to be? All you can think about is Trump and his supporters. Your Leftist brain has consumed way to much of your daily life.

Why don't you focus on something more enlightening and satisfying in your life.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Stephen Johnson

Couldn’t have said it better. :)

1 year, 3 months ago

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Sae Thirtysix

McCoob is a total narcissistic. His comments reflect all those living rent free in his brain. That is his life / no life.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Tony Bandle

High On Girod's list:

1] The Little Sisters of the Poor College {The Fighting Amens].

2] Alabama School of The Blind [The Marching "Whose There's?"]

3] Lose to Anyone Whose First initial Is "K" University [ The Jayhawk Lovers].

4] Small Person State [The Stand Talls}.

5] Boise School Of Dance [The Cha Chas]

1 year, 3 months ago

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Doug Roberts

Oh Brett, you don't want to bring politics into this.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Doug Roberts

Didn't the Big 12 look into expanding a couple of years ago and decide not to? Pretty much burned a lot of bridges after they told all those schools "Nah, we good" after inviting them to audition for a spot.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Spencer Goff

Not at all true, the reason no schools were added was because it was a hard block by Texass. Those schools that were rejected are fully aware of who thought lesser of them and who didn't.

I mean, West Virginia all but begged to add at least Cincinnati as a travel partner. Texass heard their pleas, and they were dismissed.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Ryan Mullen

Nimrod wants to fix this huh?

1 year, 3 months ago

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Karen Mansfield-Stewart

I'm starting to dislike the comment board. The negativity is relentless.

But, for those that are overlooking that, there's a good article today in Yahoo sports by Matt Engal.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/avoid-fune...

1 year, 3 months ago

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Robert Brock

I’m flat-out against Big 12 expansion. Let it die.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Karen Mansfield-Stewart

Another good article with the same general theme.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/it-...

1 year, 3 months ago

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Brian Wilson

Reading between the lines... the PAC 12 is saying they are open to an Alliance and not an expansion and the the Big 12 better find 4 decent schools to add in order to make it work.<br><br>The alternatives outside the Power 5 are not exceptional but the grass is not always greener inside these conferences because it becomes harder to win. Texas & OU should be careful what it wishes for.<br><br>
Okay, so we're at this point. I guess enlarge the conference to 16 teams and take advantage of the the available basketball schools and enlarge the TV footprint, develop the football end of things. What do think? Notre Dame (Indiana), Cincinnati (OHIO) UMass, UConn, Houston, Temple (PA), Tulane (LA) would add 6 more states and 7 more TV markets. I would want to add a Florida or New York school but there is not much to choose. Maybe Army? Getting the Army Navy game, and the Army-Notre Dame game plus every team playing in New York would be awesome. But what do you do with Army's basketball program? The only way I can see the conference expanding and relevant is to increase revenue through exposure.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Lee Stanford

I do not see Notre Dame leaving its current orbit of the ACC for the Big 12.

Karen shared a couple of interesting editorials in her posts/links above. Each of those list Boise State, BYU, Cincinnati, and Central Florida as prime candidates. I would put Houston in place of Boise State for a four team expansion.

I like Brett McCabe’s response to the “Pac-12 Stays Pat” article, where he suggested building the AFL of the 2020's. Picture a mega-conference of twenty four schools, divided into four pods of six schools each. East: 1. West Virginia 2. Army 3. Navy 4. Cincinnati 5. Uconn 6.. Temple; South: 1. Houston 2. SMU 3. UCF 4. South Florida
5. Memphis 6. Tulane; Central: 1. Iowa State 2. Kansas 3. Kansas State 4. Oklahoma State 5. Air Force 6. TCU; West: 1. Texas Tech 2. Boise State 3. Brigham Young 4. Baylor 5. UNLV 6. Colorado State.

Markets included: Boise, Cininnati, Colorado Springs, Dallas-Fort Worth, Denver, Des Moines, Houston, Kansas City, Las Vegas, Lubbock, Memphis, New Orleans, New York City, Oklahoma City, Orlando, Philadelphia, Salt Lake City, Tampa.

Drawing up these expansion wish lists feels like filling out my brackets in March! Hawks all the way!

1 year, 3 months ago

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Brian Wilson

I didn't see McCabe's idea but it looks ok. I am not so sure Notre Dame wouldn't jump in this case. Believe it or not they have a long history and ties to KU and the Orange Bowl as well as the Army game. If it were me....give them a sweetheart deal just like we did UT. Their addition IMO comes close to replacing UT and when adding Army you capture a share of New York market. I would rather have UMass(Boston) rather than UConn, or SMU (more Tx?). All that's missing is Chicago...but ND would cover much of that.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Lee Stanford

I have read that Nebraska has buyer's remorse for their decision to join the B10. Bringing them back to the Big Twelve and getting Notre Dame as well would be quite a coup. Although those two alone easily replace OU/UT, probably neither would come without a well planned expansion, including sweet deals for them.

And it never hurts to ask.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Robert Brock

Just refuse to sign ANY further Big 12 Grant of Rights.

End this nonsense.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Karen Mansfield-Stewart

The national media certainly seems to think the top four expansion options are
1) BYU
2) Boise St.
3) Univ. of Central Florida
4) Cincinnati

That would give the Big12 twelve schools. Maybe that's the best situation for now.

I'd still like to see Houston and South Florida added. Houston is a great sports school and would help keep the Big12's footprint in Texas. USF is a great school and would be a boon for UCF having a travel partner (much like Cinci for UWV).

Personally I'd still like to add Colorado State. Denver's a huge market and there's a lot of Jayhawks in Colorado but I'm not sure the best fit for that last spot in a 16 team league.

Robert brings up a good point however... how does KU approach its media rights for 2025 if it's hoping for a Big10 invite at some point. Hard to rebuild a conference when one of it's remaining premier members has wondering eyes.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Mike Barnhart

Boy, that calls for a fun Saturday afternoon roadie in Orlando followed by Big Monday in Idaho!

1 year, 3 months ago

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Karen Mansfield-Stewart

This potential wide league would definitely have to have east and west divisions, but as a fan, having Orlando, Tampa, Salt Lake City & Boise on the travel docket would be great destinations.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Jeff Coffman

I'm not a big fan of anything but KU leaving, independent is likely better than future Big 12.

However, go Florida: Southern Florida, Central Florida, Florida Atlantic, Florida Gulf Coast...there is a pod and gives us the East Coast Time Zone.

Go 16: BYU, Cincy, Memphis, and Louisville.

Houston, Boise State, AF, Colorado State .... no

You could try to get Cali - SDSU, might be the best opportunity there.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Bj Cassady

add multiples of 4: Cincy; Memphis; Houston and BYU; Second round: Tulane; Boise St; SMU; try for Louisville; Third Round try for: New Mexico, New Mexico St, Wyoming, Colorado St; Last 4; USAF, Army, Navy and try for ND.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Randy Bombardier

This is a case where you arrange for Plan B before Plan A because plan A is beyond our control. Plan B can be made to be a solid conference. It can be better than the PAC. John Kurtz put out a good video on YouTube today on that score.

I like adding 8 teams so that the conference is resilient. That's what we haven't had for some time. Replace the buyout with numbers so that should Plan A (B1G invite) appear... There will be 5 teams ranked if we add 8. Iowa State, Oklahoma State, Kansas State are all pretty regularly in the rankings. WVU, BAYLOR, TCU, TECH have been there. Add BYU, CINCY, S FLORIDA, Central Florida, Memphis, Houston you have a great collection of teams that have been relevant in the last decade. I can easily see 5 ranked teams out of this 16 team conference. Relevance increases numbers. Viewership of KU games will increase in Memphis, Florida, Houston, Cincinatti. Not only that, Memphis, Cincy and other New members will have substantial viewership increases. Espn is not going to tell us this. They want us to leave money on the table.
They want you to look at viewership numbers these schools currently have. Ridiculous. It is prudent to do this. Greatly expand, win non-conference games and the conference will make a huge impact in the rankings. Then when we leave the others left behind will do fine. Once we impact the rankings the PAC and BIG will be interested.

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"Remember, as things currently stand, OU and UT are not planning on leaving the Big 12 until the grant of rights agreement expires in 2025. That would give all 10 current Big 12 schools four more years of solid financial footing." how dumb do u have to be to think ou/ut wont hi tail it out of town YEARS before this?! good. lord. were Fd. kc is NOT a major market, sorry... :/ 🤷‍♂️

1 year, 3 months ago

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Michael Maris

In these days of Conference expansion, it's all about TV revenue. TV Revenue is based on generating viewership of fans across the Conference SOI......

Boise State brings less to the table than WVU does.

BYU has a NATIONAL audience much like Notre Dame.

Raid from TV Footprints that were raiding the Big XII.....

Northern Illinois brings a % Chicago viewers.

Colorado State brings a % of Denver and State of Colorado viewers.

U. of Houston brings a % of Houston viewers.

Want to go beyond 12 teams......

U. of Memphis brings % of Memphis TV viewers

U. of Cincinnati brings % of Southern Ohio and N. Kentucky viewers.

Central Florida brings % Orlando viewers.

S. Florida brings % of Tampa viewers.

That's where I would focus (Not Boise, Idaho)....

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Brian Wilson

IMO, first thing is a sweetheart deal for Notre Dame. Get ND first and all others are easy. with a huge national audience, plus Indiana, Indianapolis, & Chicago.. Yes on BYU - huge following. IMO, no on Boise, NIU, or CSU - not Big12 material. Not sure about the Florida schools.. They do have a huge enrollment. Yes to Houston, Mephis, Cincinnati - great markets, good basketball programs.

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Michael Maris

If Notre Dame leaves their part-time status as a ACC, member. Then, they're accepting a B1G invitation along with Kansas (to balance out league membership).

Otherwise, Notre Dame will retain their Football Independence for as long as they can......

And, if Notre Dame is staying as a Football independent.....

So is BYU..... I feel that BYU will eventually end up in PAC (if Notre Dame ends up in B1G)

Without Texas & OU, the Big XII isn't the same appeal....

Beggars can't be picky........ Want TV revenue to be up..... Target LARGE TV markets.....

NIU is in Chicagoland Footprint....... Colorado State is in Denver footprint..... U. of Houston is in Houston footprint.... DFW, San Antonio, is already covered by Baylor & TCU..... KC by ISU, KU & KSU.... OKC & Tulsa by OSU.

West Texas by TTU, WVU covers West Virginia (about as populated asthe State of Idaho (so NO to Boise State).

1 year, 3 months ago

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David Robinett

Big 10 with ISU > half-ass Big 12

1 year, 3 months ago

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Bryan Mohr

I like the idea of going big, and getting all the military academies. Army-Navy, Army-AF, AF-Navy, would all draw large national audience. BYU is a national brand. UNLV => Vegas. CSU => Denver. UCF => Orlando. USF => Tampa. San Diego. Some places people actually like traveling.

WEST
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BYU
Air Force
UNLV or Boise St
San Diego St or Boise St
Kansas St
Oklahoma St
Baylor
TCU
Texas Tech
Colorado St

EAST
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Kansas
Iowa St
West Virginia
Army
Navy
Central Florida
Cincinnati
Memphis
USF
Houston

1 year, 3 months ago

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Rodney Crain

8 blind mice. 8 blind mice.

See how slow they work.

They can’t do the job they already have.

Train wreck of a fix we will have,

Such is our life with these fools in charge,

Eight blind mice.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Spencer Goff

All jokes and negativity aside, gimme a show of hands how many of us are happy that we actually can see an end to being in the same conference as Texass?

If you told me the worst that can happen is we end up in a conference formed of the best the new Big 8, the MWC and AAC have to offer, and the league actually functions as a cohesive unit without an overlord, I would have encouraged Texass to take their girlfriend Oklahoma and move south years ago.

Can I get an amen!?!!

1 year, 3 months ago

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Lee Stanford

Amen!

It's going to be so sweet not having to deal with either one of them.

1 year, 3 months ago

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Layne Pierce

TEXAS
should be in their own conference, make that their own athletic association. They can play themselves in a one game playoff and win at least half of the time.

RCJH

1 year, 3 months ago

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Dirk Medema

Karen - I completely appreciate your sentiment on negativity. In some ways it’s kinda humorous, like a “Jackass” video. In other ways it’s really sad as it reflects poorly on the university, though they’re oblivious to the harm they do.

The unfortunate reality is some people are just complainers and quitters. It’s in their dna so much that some will find reasons to complain even about that which is good.

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Ervin O'Neal

Using highly rounded numbers, the current Big 12 media contract is worth $400 million (pays $40 million per team). If losing OU and UT reduces the contract value by 50%, the next contract would be worth $200 million (pays $25 million per team). This isn't that much worse than the current payouts for the Pac 12 and the ACC. The Big 12 can't simply go out and add a bunch of schools if the end result is that each team receives less revenue than if we only added a couple schools. Each schools that we add has to increase the TV revenue by at least $25 million annually or we are going backwards. Some of these schools that are being mentioned above wouldn't raise the revenue by half of that amount based on their current agreements. Many of them already play on weeknights or the very early or very late kickoff times just to improve their ratings by being the only game on TV. More is not always better. Also keep in mind that a lot of these markets being mentioned like Vegas, Denver and Orlando have large populations that aren't originally from that area. I wouldn't imagine that a large % of the TV sets in Orlando would be watching UCF play Texas Tech on a Saturday afternoon that featured a full SEC lineup on other channels.

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