Talk of Kansas basketball hanging a 2020 national championship banner seems tacky

Kansas center Udoka Azubuike (35) waits at the far end of the court during the second half, Wednesday, March 5, 2020 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas center Udoka Azubuike (35) waits at the far end of the court during the second half, Wednesday, March 5, 2020 at Allen Fieldhouse. by Nick Krug

While there are plenty of people out there — present company included — who still can’t quite comprehend that it’s over, it’s worth remembering that the Kansas men’s basketball team turned in an all-timer of a 2019-20 season.

Sadly, that season came to an abrupt and agonizing end on Thursday, when both the Big 12 Conference and then the NCAA Tournament elected to cancel the postseason amid concerns about the threat and spread of the coronavirus.

It’s hard to blame either entity for the moves. And it’s even harder to avoid sympathizing with the disappointment the players and coaches of the blue blood program must be feeling right now.

Throw the Kansas fans into that group, too.

Although none of them put in the same kind of work in the weight room or the gym as the KU players themselves, Jayhawk fans are a loud and proud group that lives for March. And many of them spent a good portion of their day on Thursday trying to make sense of what happened and, worse, trying to figure out what they were going to do to next.

Some of them — the Twitter types — began to clown around with the idea of Kansas hanging a “2020 national champions” banner at Allen Fieldhouse. They even went as far as to photoshop said banner into the AFH rafters. And while the images looked nice and clean, the idea just isn’t.

Here’s why.

Sure, recognizing college basketball’s national champion through the polls may have worked way back when. The Helms Athletic Foundation crowned the champ from 1904 through 1937 by picking the team that had the best season.

KU got the nod twice, in 1922 and 1923, and has two banners hanging to show for it.

But then the NCAA Tournament became a thing in 1939 and that wonderful event has decided college basketball’s champion every year since. Until now.

College football may have survived, or even thrived, by naming a champion through the polls for decades. But that was largely because football did not have a postseason tournament and, therefore, could not crown its champion any other way.

Basketball has that tournament. And it wasn’t played this year. So no champion.

Claiming otherwise would be akin to what Central Florida’s football team did a few years back by making rings, printing T-shirts and even hanging a freaking banner that proclaimed the Knights to be the 2017 champs.

The stunt was great for the fans. But it didn’t gain much traction anywhere else. And, in all honesty, it looked a little JV.

Everyone knows that Alabama won the title that year. We all saw it with our own eyes. Bama knocked off Clemson in the national semifinals and then beat Georgia, in overtime, in the national title game before the crimson and white confetti came raining down.

Beyond that, 13-1 Alabama finished ranked No. 1 in both major polls. Central Florida, which went 13-0, was ranked No. 1 in the Colley Matrix poll. But the Knights finished sixth and seventh in the AP and Coaches polls. Alabama was No. 2 in the Colley poll.

I’m sure KU’s players and coaches would love to celebrate the idea of being named the 2020 champs.

But even if they were, they would always know that they did not win their title the way all other modern day champions had won theirs — by grinding their way through six of the toughest games you could ever imagine playing and standing on the stage at the end of it all with “One Shining Moment” being put together as you celebrate.

Was that their fault? Nope. Would the Jayhawks have won it all if March Madness had not been canceled this season? I really think they were headed that way.

But it didn’t happen. And it’s better to just leave a blank space after the weird ending to a wonderful season rather than trying to force something that, at best, will always seem a bit awkward, and, at worst, would look tacky.

I get the argument that KU was the nation’s unanimous No. 1 team when it counted most and that most people who follow the sport agree that Kansas was college basketball’s best team entering March.

But how many times does college basketball’s best team actually win the title? It certainly isn’t every year.

That’s the beauty of March Madness, right?

Don’t get me wrong. There will be a time and place for the 2019-20 Jayhawks to be celebrated. Even if it’s not any time soon, let’s hope it’s one hell of a party.

This team was as much fun to cover as any team KU has had in the past six or seven seasons. And it was full of good, likable, talented kids who played the right way and for the right reasons.

They worked hard, played harder and improved a ridiculous amount throughout the season. And they deserve to feel not just good, but great, about the season they put together.

They just don’t need a T-shirt or knockoff banner to justify the feeling.

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Dane Pratt

I’ll be disappointed if they don’t hang a banner. It may lack conventional credentials but in the absence of a tournament the final polls are the best way, the only way we can crown a champion. And college basketball deserves a national title after playing an entire season. Otherwise it will make the last five months pretty much a moot point.

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Michael Leiker

If some recognized organization like the AP were to award it, then you hang it. That's why there are 5 National Champion banners in AFH, not 2 National Champion and 3 NCAA Tournament Champion Banners.

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Matt Tait

That's a good point. And I suppose that would be easier to justify and watch. But short of that, you can't just claim it like UCF did.

That being said, I can't imagine the AP recognizing a champion this year.

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Larry Knzas

Matt, just not sure the UCF analogy works in this instance. In that the football College Football Playoff was not canceled.

If it did apply, you would be saying that KU would not be part of the NCAA tournament.

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Matt Tait

You've got a point. But either way, neither team won a title on the field or court and is/would be just claiming it, so, big picture, it's at least kind of the same thing.

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Armen Kurdian

You could hang a banner, that we were unanimous #1 at the end of the Season, which would be a fact...I'll be the final AP poll has us with all the #1 votes in all the polls. But I'm w/you, even if the NCAA were to ship us a trophy, I'd probably send it back...'cause you gotta play the game (to turn a phrase).

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Dale Rogers

But a banner based on the AP or other entity anointing us champion would require that the banner identify the anointer. It just wouldn't have the same cache' as a true NCAA Championship banner. The only way I see us hanging a banner identifying us as NCAA National Champion is if the NCAA itself comes out and states that we are the champion. I don't see that happening.

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Dane Pratt

Don't think the NCAA would but can't think of any good reason why AP and coaches poll don't.

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Ryan Mullen

Having a blog called Tale of the Tait is also Tacky.

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Matt Tait

Glad you read it, despite the name!
For real... appreciate all of our readers!!!

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Glen Miller

There isn't a team in America that really has a gripe that we weren't the best team in the country as of this week. We proved it on the court, we proved it with our record, we proved it in conference, and we beat some of the best teams in the country in both Power 5 conferences and mid-majors. Not another team in the States has been through some of the things we have (some self inflicted) and still kept winning. Most years we are contenders I have my doubts...... this year I honestly thought that we were so mentally strong and played so well together as a team that I was confident we were going to pull it off. Great season Jayhawks, I personally am about as proud of this team as I ever have been any other! It was an amazing run and I will miss watching this particular group play together. Rock Chalk!!!

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Randy Signor

I have zero problem with said banner. Or at least a T-shirt. No tourney means we've reverted to how champions were crowned X years ago. Not perfect but people accepted it for years. And it's only a gesture, a comment that this team should be recognized; team and school robbed of chance to win the thing regularly. And, yeah, Scott Frost's Central Florida team pushed for recognition and I had no problem with that either. They were undefeated and only the people who run the polls disagreed. Had as much right to that claim as the so-called 'winner.' I refuse to let this team and its accomplishments go unheralded. Everyone who can vote in a poll voted us No. 1. Case closed.

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Chandler Accipiter

But K-State should still get to print t-shirts for being champions of the Big 12 tourney (technically co-champs with OSU). Right?

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Karen Mansfield-Stewart

I agree that you shouldn’t create an NCAA National Championship banner or make your own trophy, but you could hang a banner such as,

2019-2020 Unanimous Associated Press #1 Men’s College Basketball Team

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Matt Tait

You definitely could. I just can't imagine KU doing that. They don't need to. They hang banners for national and conference championships not for being the media's pick as the best team.

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Spencer Goff

Don't give me this garbage about "tacky." The NCAA is all up in our $hit over a player that played at Duke, they punished our player for payments made by Maryland, every guy we recruit has to sit out half a year while they "look at their eligibility." Yet they "took their word" that Duke never paid Zion, Kentucky never paid Anthony Davis... and those classes at North Carolina were "legit because EVERY student had the opportunity to take fake classes!". I don't care how it looks because I don't care about the tainted judgement of the NCAA. If it were Duke or UNC the NCAA/ESPN/Nike spew fest would be pushing to award a title, and the NCAA would do it.

So, Kansas, do it to spite the NCAA and their dog and pony show. Do it to put a bird finger in the air. Do it for the legit reasons of being #1 at the end of the season in every viable metric on the planet. Do it because these players played the toughest schedule in the land, have no bad loss, have great wins, improved the entire season, and are playing their best basketball at seasons end. Do it because EVERY OTHER FAN BASE out there would be arguing for their team to do it. Do it for whatever reason you want, but to quote Nike ironically, JUST DO IT.

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Joe Black

It is time for the NCAA to finally step up and do something meaningful.
They should declare KU National Champions. It shouldn't come down to KU doing it on their own. The NCAA knows that KU was the odds on favorite to win the NC and they finished the regular season ranked #1. Sure this is not how the champions have been crowned since the NCAA started having tournaments but THEY decided to cancel the tournament so THEY should make a special determination of National Champion this year. It is not an ordinary situation so the champs don't have to be determined in the ordinary way.
#KUCHAMPS

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Dillon Davis

If the AP or NCAA or someone major like that recognizes us as champions, then we should hang a banner. If they don't, then we shouldn't. Simple as that.

But this is very different from UCF's situation.

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Matt Tait

It's different. And if someone like the AP or NCAA pegs KU as the champs then it would be very different. But that's not going to happen. So, in both instances, you'd be looking at a team that did not win the title on the field or court that would then be claiming it on their own.

As I mentioned in another comment above, KU doesn't need to do that. They have plenty of the real ones and will get more.

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Dane Pratt

Agree. It has to be from a third party with no connection to KU. Otherwise everyone will hang a banner just to mock us.

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Brett McCabe

Zero interest in fake titles or banners.

It’s just tough luck. It’s life. It happens.

And it was a great season for these kids, especially when dealing with the NCAA distractions. Great focus, poise and effort. So no need to award with an asterisk.

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Ryan Mullen

Excellent analysis Boomer Brett!

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Mike Auer

Matt, your analogy to the UCF situation is really weak and poorly thought out. There is not really any valid similarities.

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Jeff Coffman

Yes there is...it would be the same claim that Gonzaga would use to claim the national championship this year. Inferior competition with a similar record.

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Jeff Coffman

I'm sorry Tait...Are you saying that we should distinguish the way our 5 banners currently are mounted in the rafters? 2 are helms and 3 are based on the tourney, but all 5 look the same. Likewise the 6th should be hung and look exactly like the other 5. You don't need asterisks for doing the right thing, you put asterisks for doing the wrong thing.

Not every year has NCAA championships been unanimous, this year it would be.

By the way your analogy is closer to Gonzaga's claim to the championship, not KU's claim.

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Kenneth Johnson

Matt, I don't agree with you. While you, and others, may say that, since there will be no tournament, KU (nor any pretenders) will be named NCAA national champions this season.

But, consider that there is no doubt that Kansas had the best regular season among all of Division I basketball teams. The Jayhawks defeated two of the other most accomplished teams, Dayton and Baylor (although Baylor got them once, as well). The Jayhawks had the best overall record, losing only three games and finishing on a 16-game winning streak, and they won the tough Big 12 Conference regular-season championship by two full games.
Among computer rankings, Kansas was No. 1 in the KenPom ratings (ahead of Gonzaga), No. 1 in the Sagarin ratings (ahead of Gonzaga), No. 1 in ESPN’s BPI (ahead of Duke), and No. 1 in ESPN’s Strength of Record (ahead of Baylor).

Even though KU is clearly the best team this year, some say it does not make them the champions, since in this sport, championships are won on the court. But, I say that, since there is no tournament, the championship can’t be won on the court, so why not officially say that KU is the national champion this season?

One problem for sure is that the NCAA will likely do everything they can to keep Kansas from being named national champs. Even though KU has no reason to cheat, the NCAA has postured bogus charges, and is actively pursuing them.

So, it’s obvious that the only answer is for the fans to decide. So, I’m casting my vote for the University of Kansas Jayhawks basketball team.

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Tim Orel

Matt - since you feel this way, does this mean that you don't think KU's (and the other 67 teams') streak of being in the tourney is still alive, since the tourney didn't have any teams this year? Do you think that Virginia will be the defending champion next year (provided, knock, knock, we have a tourney next year)?

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Matt Tait

I don't think this ends KU's 30-year NCAA Tournament streak because there was no NCAA Tournament to be in this year. But I'm sure you can look at that a few different ways.

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Randy Signor

What, you don't think we'd have been in it, if held? Do not punish players/schools for something completely out of their control.

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Benjamin Shear

It would be bad form to claim it for ourselves. That would be tacky and it would be very amatur. I can't imagine it would feel 'right' to the KU players and staff to say 'we are national champions!' without winning those 6 important games. I do hope there is a way to recognize the top of the country status in a way that is meaningful. KU would have been the overall number 1 seed in the tournament, and that, in many ways, it akin to being the regular season champions. I'm not sure about a banner, but it is always appropriate to recognize achievement. Let's hope another organization/group steps up to recognize the KU team as they deserve.

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Jeff Coffman

I assume you want to take down the 1922 and 1923 banners that are tacky in our fieldhouse today since they would have been awarded in the same manner we would win this year?

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Armen Kurdian

No, because back then, that was the process. Same rules as everyone

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Jeff Coffman

Do research before you post. The Helms organization was created in 1936 (well after our 1921 and 1922 championship). They retroactively awarded national championships to those teams.

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Benjamin Shear

No Jeff I don't. I actually think the NCAA should award KU a regular season national championship award for this year. My point was only that it gains more validity when an outside group (i.e. the Helms Athletic Foundation national championship) does the awards vs the university just making things up. The Helms award I believe was valid before we had the tournament as the way for an unbiased organization to crown who the best was for the year.

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W Keith Swinehart II

Can't do it! It's the journey under intense fire that earns the championship. We finished number one in our conference with no road defeats. We finished number one in the nation running away.. We must be happy with those indisputable facts. Not what we wanted, but not bad. We can't pretend.

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Pius Waldman

There are pros and cons whether a champion should be declared for 2019-2020. Ok here is my pro. To leave it blank says no season was played. Not true the season was played and was stopped for reasons we all know. So the only way to not post a blank is to use sources that indicate the best rated team. Kansas by far has the top choice from AP and Coaches poll.
Technically NCAA could and should make that distinction. Problem the pending accusations might be a problem. So even if KU is presented as the champions NCAA could and would force
removal if accusations are approved.
Guys and gals thats my take.

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Dane Pratt

They were the ones who reinstated Silvio. They have no reason to rescind the 2019-20 season.

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Dale Rogers

Gonzaga fans are claiming they should be national champs because they just this week became number 1 in the NET rankings despite having 20 of their wins against Quad 3 and Quad 4 teams (the worst teams in division 1).

And Wisconsin fans claim they should be champs because they were in a 3-way tie for first in the conference ranked the strongest.

And on, and on, and on.

My point is that anyone can self-proclaim their championship. But it takes a nationally recognized entity to actually proclaim a team as national champ for it to take on meaning by anyone other than that school's fans. In this case, the NCAA is really the only "entity" whose proclamation would mean anything. ESPN, USA Today, Dickie V, etc., can say what they want but only the NCAA can proclaim a champion that would stand above all others.

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Dane Pratt

Why doesn't the AP and coaches poll declare a national title like they used to do in football. They don't need the NCAA's permission.

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Brett McCabe

Because they have common sense.

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Dane Pratt

And what common sense would that be?

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Robin Smith

I'd say there's at least compelling sporting precedent. The Tour de France had to stop a pivotal stage in 2019 for safety concerns when there was a landslide further up the course and they just freeze the result at the time of the cancellation. The time gaps and placement were the final result on that stage.

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Matt Tait

Tacky. Right?

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Joe Ross

A big reason for that is that FSU never held a #1 ranking, received no first place votes, was never considered as the favorite to win it all, etc., etc., etc.

People would see the rationale differently if Kansas were to make the case. Kansas has the street cred to make such an argument.

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Dane Pratt

The cancellation has really punished teams like Florida State, Penn State and Dayton. After 2020 they may very well return to their relative state of mediocrity. It's teams like North Carolina that have lost nothing.

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Joe Ross

Even Coronavirus can't defeat Kansas

#1 AP poll
#1 coaches poll
#1 kenpom
#1 Sagarin
#1 RPI & BPI
#1 overall seed
-Vegas favorite
-Most Quad 1 wins
-Only losses to top 12 teams
-National POY favorite (Azubiuke)
-Dominating Win Streak

Kansas Jayhawks = National Champions.

Make the banner. Hang it. Celebrate it. Force the conversation.

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Dane Pratt

At the very least there needs to be a conversation on a national scale and so far I'm not seeing it. Why aren't sportswriters writing about this? It's not like they are too busy covering games.

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Matt Tait

I'm not sure what the point would be. The NCAA champion, since 1939, has been decided by the NCAA Tournament. It sucks there wasn't one this year. And KU and a couple of other teams with a great shot to win it definitely got screwed (I feel horrible for Dayton). But there is no champ this year. And that's OK. KU fans and the school/program can celebrate this team forever. And they should. But there's just no need to proclaim one team the national champion when we have no idea which one was actually capable of winning six in a row in the next few weeks. Could've been Michigan State. Or Kansas. Or Dayton. Or Duke. We just don't know. And never will.

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Joe Ross

Here's what I grant you. First, there is no appetite for doing this nationally, because one team stands out with all the credentials in its favor: Kansas. Secondly, if sportswriters voted on a national champion, the NCAA would likely not recognize the result officially, probably citing the reasons you have here. And finally, even if the NCAA endorsed the result--they wouldn't--there is a huge likelihood that in the aftermath of the investigation they would strip Kansas of it anyhow.

So why do it?

Well if you're Kansas it makes all the good sense in the world. And it has to do with the final point just made. Kansas is headed for some dark days, I believe. The program needs a shot in the arm. Something to help with keeping big names coming in. Something to keep team morale high. That "something" would be the kind of thing that endorses the outstanding season this team has had, and shines a light on the tradition of the program in general, and this team in particular. I believe with everything in me that this kind of moral victory is necessary given where the program is likely to go.

To be clear, thus far I'm not making an appeal that considers all the teams on the landscape (though I will make the case shortly). Quite the contrary. I'm making an argument driven from a Kansas perspective. Interestingly, other teams (and even states) who are NOT Kansas and do not have Kansas' credentials are making their own cases. That may be yet another reason to have a winner declared, even if only in the press. Some collective agreement on who was the best team can't be a bad thing, because it fits with the purpose of sport (there is also no reason to have a weekly poll, but we do it anyway). So I think you do it. And do it for the Kansas fans, as well. They are likely to miss out on next year's tournament as well. And who knows...maybe seasons after. Put some joy in Mudville.

I don't buy into the argument that because the tournament has decided a winner for the last umpteen years means that you can't decide in unusual circumstances to declare a winner using unusual methods, including those which have been used in the past. Why is that set in stone? We didn't see coronavirus coming, so the fact that a different means of declaring a winner would be unforeseen as well would be entirely expected if an appetite existed for doing so.

Lastly--and this argument actually is relevant to ALL teams--naming a champion would have to involve considering the body of work for every division I school for the truncated season. As it stands, there is no finality for anyone, rendering all the games they've played useless. If a champion were declared, on the other hand, the cover would be closed on the season with the knowledge that each team's performance counted for something which got weighed in the balance at the season's (unexpected) end.

But certainly this is a no-brainer from a Kansas perspective. Not tacky at all

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Spencer Goff

The State of Florida just voted to declare the Seminoles national champions by default. So I see no reason KU shouldn’t be hanging a banner.

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Spencer Goff

If anything you would think Florida’s move would force the NCAA to actually pick. But because it’s KU and Emmert and Co are turds they won’t.

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Dale Rogers

I was just thinking the same thing.

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Kit Duncan

It’s likely too late, but the NCAA should consider delaying the start of the tournament two weeks then reverting to the old schedule using the top 32 teams. The first weekend would pare the field to eight. Then, Thursday of week two the field would be pared to four. Saturday the Final Four would be played, with the Championship either Monday night or the following weekend.

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Joe Ross

Here's what I grant you. First, there is no appetite for doing this nationally, because one team stands out with all the credentials in its favor: Kansas. Secondly, if sportswriters voted on a national champion, the NCAA would likely not recognize the result officially, probably citing the reasons you have here. And finally, even if the NCAA endorsed the result--they wouldn't--there is a huge likelihood that in the aftermath of the investigation they would strip Kansas of it anyhow.

So why do it?

Well if you're Kansas it makes all the good sense in the world. And it has to do with the final point just made. Kansas is headed for some dark days, I believe. The program needs a shot in the arm. Something to help with keeping big names coming in. Something to keep team morale high. That "something" would be the kind of thing that endorses the outstanding season this team has had, and shines a light on the tradition of the program in general, and this team in particular. I believe with everything in me that this kind of moral victory is necessary given where the program is likely to go.

To be clear, thus far I'm not making an appeal that considers all the teams on the landscape (though I will make the case shortly). Quite the contrary. I'm making an argument driven from a Kansas perspective. Interestingly, other teams (and even states) who are NOT Kansas and do not have Kansas' credentials are making their own cases. That may be yet another reason to have a winner declared, even if only in the press. Some collective agreement on who was the best team can't be a bad thing, because it fits with the purpose of sport (there is also no reason to have a weekly poll, but we do it anyway). So I think you do it. And do it for the Kansas fans, as well. They are likely to miss out on next year's tournament as well. And who knows...maybe seasons after. Put some joy in Mudville.

I don't buy into the argument that because the tournament has decided a winner for the last umpteen years means that you can't decide in unusual circumstances to declare a winner using unusual methods, including those which have been used in the past. Why is that set in stone? We didn't see coronavirus coming, so the fact that a different means of declaring a winner would be unforeseen as well would be entirely expected if an appetite existed for doing so.

Lastly--and this argument actually is relevant to ALL teams--naming a champion would have to involve considering the body of work for every division I school for the truncated season. As it stands, there is no finality for anyone, rendering all the games they've played useless. If a champion were declared, on the other hand, the cover would be closed on the season with the knowledge that each team's performance counted for something which got weighed in the balance at the season's (unexpected) end.

But certainly this is a no-brainer from a Kansas perspective. Not tacky at all

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Martin Shupert

I absolutely disagree with the premise of this article. College Football thrived for decades without a playoff system and Champions were crowned every year and recognized as National Champions. To say that it has to be won on the field or court now is not adjusting to the reality of our times. In fact, many inferior teams have won the titles since playoffs began. If you really wanted a legit champion, you would have double elimination regionals and play a final four with the 4 teams who survived that. Instead, any lucky bounce, any suddenly hot team, any injury, any ill advised call for time out, any poorly refereed game or moment loses the best team their chance. We live with that because that's the nature of the game. Well, it WAS the nature of the game last year, but this year is different. We cannot have a tournament this year. But it doesn't make sense that we cannot hold a vote now to determine the Champion, whoever that might be. I am assuming KU is elected, but it should be formally done in both the A.P. and U.P.I. Others could have their own polls. The point is, winning that vote at the end of a grueling season doesn't GIVE that team the National Championship. They EARNED it!

Now, you want to quiet the nay sayers here? Sure, you can do it. It's called an ASTERISK. I have no problem with putting an asterisk next to the champion's banner, none whatsoever. So have it. Stick that asterisk up there, and everyone is at least half happy. It's a sad ending to the year, but the asterisk just might be the best compromise we can come up with.

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Joe Ross

Excellent!

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Dirk Medema

Hang a banner, but the letters should be in black.

Expecting any response from the NCAA is like expecting a fair and prompt response on any eligibility for KU.

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Joey Meyer

Matt, is there any movement to petition the AP writers to recognize a champion, considering this is such an unusual year?

I don't see a reason why they couldn't step out and vote a nation champion considering the extremely unusual circumstances of this year.

I'm not just thinking mens basketball, but womens too. The NCAA of course wouldn't have to recognize it, and they probably wouldn't, but it would give a whole lot more visibility to the AP Poll and certainly give them a little more relevance like they had in the BCS and prior years of football.

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Dane Pratt

If the NCAA had a provision to determine a champion in the event of a shortened season it would probably be what football has done for a good part of its history, which is going by the polls. In 1960 the Minnesota football team was named AP national champion before playing in the Rose Bowl which they lost.

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Jeff Coffman

Some key confusion on the Helms Foundation National Championships. Helms was organized in 1936 and retroactively awarded national championships in sports included basketball beginning for the 1901 year.

Realize that our 1921 and 1922 championships were awarded after many years, this wasn't setup on the frontend and you played to knowing you were going to known as the Helm champion, that came more than a decade later.

All of you saying this is different than the Helms, it is more similar to the helms than you think.

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Barry Weiss

well, the AP just published their final poll with Kansas as number 1. Hang the Banner. No one below us can argue they deserve it, so its not like we are stepping over someone. Grow a set and do it. Deal with any minor fall out later. Do it for our players for crying out loud!

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