Tom Keegan: Matt Campbell showing major progress already in second season at Iowa State

Second-year Iowa State head coach Matt Campbell leads his Cyclones onto the field in Norman, Oklahoma, Saturday before they upset No. 3 Oklahoma, 38-31. (Associated Press photo.)

You take over a college football program from a fired coach and you’re bound to have a rough baptism. Losing cultures can be so difficult to reverse and a lack of talent on hand generally is a major contributor to that reality.

So nobody freaked out last season when Matt Campbell started his Iowa State career 0-3, losing to FCS school Northern Iowa, then at Iowa, 42-3, then at TCU, 41-20.

Just one year later, the Cyclones already have made huge strides under Campbell.

On the same day Kansas was blitzed at home by Texas Tech, 65-19, in the eighth season of trying and failing to make progress in the post-Mark Mangino era, Campbell scored his third victory of the season and not just any victory.

The Cyclones stormed into Norman, Oklahoma, and came out on top against the No. 3 school in the nation, 38-31.

If Campbell and his coaches can somehow devise a game plan sound enough to slip past Kansas in Ames next week, that will make ISU’s record 4-2, the most victories for the Cyclones since they won six in 2012.

It also would give Campbell more Big 12 victories (five) in his 13th game than Turner Gill, Charlie Weis, interim Clint Bowen and Beaty, in his third season, have combined for (four) in 65 (including next week) Big 12 games. No KU coach since Mangino has won more than one conference game. Their records: Gill 1-16, Weis 1-18, Bowen 1-7, Beaty 1-19.

KU football coaches hired by current athletic director Sheahon Zenger have gone 5-54 vs. FBS schools and 3-44 in Big 12 play, success that earned Zenger a contract extension in the bottom of the ninth inning of Bernadette Gray-Little’s tenure as chancellor. Zenger rewarded Beaty with a contract extension after a season that included KU’s first victory against Texas since 1938. In his third year at Kansas, Beaty has a 1-25 record vs. FBS schools.

Usually, if a coach is going to succeed in a rebuilding project, signs of improvement surface in his second year.

For example, Glen Mason won five games in his first season at Kent State, seven in his second. He won one game in his initial season at Kansas, four in his second, three games in his first try at Minnesota, five in his second.

Mangino won two games in his debut season at KU, six in his second.

Campbell, who went 35-15 at Toledo, went 3-9 in his first season in Ames and takes a 3-2 record into Saturday’s 11 a.m. kickoff.

Campbell, 37, already has played four opponents for a second time at Iowa State and played each one tougher in the rematch.

He went 0-4 vs. Northern Iowa, Iowa, Texas and Oklahoma last season and the Cyclones scored 53 points and gave up 128. This season, ISU is 2-2 against the same four schools and has scored 128 points and allowed 116.

That’s impressive progress. It shows it can be done. No reason recruiting to Lawrence should be tougher than to Ames. No excuse for what's being allowed to take place at Kansas.

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Michael Maris

Good Article Tom.

Earlier today, I was reviewing the 2011 articles and the posts from the fan base. 6 years later, same stories being written for the same problems that existed in Gill's last season. SAD! And, Sheahon Zenger commenting "We're going to fix this!"

Message to the Administrative Level and AD. It's STILL not fixed.

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Bville Hawk

I think it's apparent that Keegan has run out of patience with this charade of a football program we are all being asked to support with our wallets and our attendance.

Not sure why it is but it seems that over the years the only type of head coach that has had much success at KU is the hard ass, SOB, type. I'm thinking Bud Moore (who was on his way to a great season when Cromwell went down against OU), Glenn Mason, Mark Mangino.

It's not important if the players like their head coach, what is important is that they respect him.

Who was on the search committee that "hired" Beaty? Was Beaty the recommendation of the committee or did Zenger go rogue and hire him against the committee's recommendation?

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Bryce Landon

I shared similar sentiments in the comment threads yesterday. Iowa State has less resources than Kansas available to them, but ISU is making the most of the resources they have. Anything Iowa State can do, Kansas should be able to do better - if the administration cared enough, that is.

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Austin Lopez

Kansas screwed up when they hired a freaking WR coach from the college level that had no experience as a head coach, offensive or defensive coordinator on the college level!!! That was the first mistake!! Who the freak does that?? At least get someone with HC experience! I'm sure there were way more coaches qualified for the position than Beaty!

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Jack Brooks

And, how about we remove Clint Bowen from the lifetime employment program? He's obviously not good at his job. If the KUAD is going to remain hellbent on keeping him employed, perhaps they could pay him to stay away from the FB program?

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Marius Rowlanski

Shouldn't be too hard, he's managed to keep most of the fans away from the FB program.

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Edward Daub

Campbell will be in the "Soup" against KU! I can "Smell" an Upset coming in Ames!

It is probably a good thing that KU hits the Road to escape the Noise from their Own Jumbo Screen! I came to town for the WVU Game and was shocked by the Loud Noise and Lousy Music being played! Rich and Mature KU Fans will head to the Exits!!!

So, if we want to Fire anybody now, lets Fire the "Jumbotron" Music Director! (Note - several other posters have also mentioned the extremely loud noise that caters to nobody). We need to stick with our coaching staff at least for this year! Who are we going to Hire, Rex and Rob Ryan? Austin Lopez might have some suggestions from WNY.

Beaty is in his 3rd Year and deserves all 5 years to prove himself! And Clint is like Rock and Roll, he is here to stay (in Lawrence that is)!

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Bryan Mohr

KU finishes this season 1-11 (0-9 Big12).

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Austin Lopez

Well If I had to suggest a coach from the WNY area for Kansas to hire it would hands down be Canisius high school football coach Rich Robbins. Since 2012 he has a record of 55-8, and his team doesn't schedule cupcake teams, they will play anybody, anywhere. 55-8 over 5 and a half years (the football season is still going on) might seem like a low number but here in NY there are only 7 regular season games, than the rest are playoff games but Canisius seems to always get 12-13 games a year because they reach the state Catholic championship almost every year. He has produced over 20 D1 players since 2012 and his most notable recruited players are (Qadree Ollison - Pittsburgh, Tyrone Wheatly Jr - Michigan, Blake Haubeil - Ohio State (Starting as a freshman) , Paul Woods (Rutgers, currently playing his senior year of football). I wouldn't worry about his recruiting experience.consider all him and his staff do is recruit and poach the good players from the public schools in all of WNY . Also, they finish in Top 100 in the country almost every year and top 1-10 in the state of NY. Now If I had to choose a coach from WNY it would be him. Now on the other hand I'm not a fan of his or the rest of the Catholic teams in the area, considering I don't like how they win, it's no secret behind close doors they recruit the talented players from the public schools but this isn't the here or there.

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Len Shaffer

Edward, you are so right about the noise. I was also at the WV game, and I hadn't been to a game in a few years. The noise (and that's all it was, since the word "music" should never be associated with 90% of their selections) was practically unbearable!

Unfortunately, KU is not alone in that regard, as one of the things that keeps me from going to nearly as many games as I used to, in pro and college sports, is the constant overwhelming stimulation coming from the PA announcer, the activities during timeouts, etc. I know it makes me sound old, but I long for the days when you could have a conversation during a game without having to scream at each other to be heard.

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Bryan Mohr

Keegan is right. Progress should have been seen this year. It's amazing how dysfunctional the football program has been over the years. The firing of Al Bohl years ago (2003) was the first mistake (thanks Roy and Hemenway). Lew Perkins was second mistake (thanks again, Hemenway). BGL, third mistake (thanks, Kansas Board of Regents). Now Zenger. We can try to attribute current lack of performance to ghosts from the past, but Zenger is now fully responsible for this mess. Beaty seems to be an excellent guy, but he's being paid millions of dollars to produce a quality football program. He's failing in his role. If Zenger does not fire Beaty very soon, Zenger will be the one packing his bags. But maybe Zenger prefers to get canned and take his $1.4 million buyout rather than admit his failure to hire a good coach in 2 attempts. With the brand new Chancellor, I see a chance that Zenger gets to make a 3rd hire. But allowing Zenger to hire another coach won't go over well with a whole lot of people (and understandably so). I guess the questions are: 1) Is Zenger's value to the new stadium project and fundraising campaign worth allowing him to hire a 3rd coach? 2) Is Zenger willing to fire Beaty?

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Bryce Landon

Al Bohl treated everyone like garbage, not just Roy. Also keep in mind he had some shady dealings in his past when he was AD at Fresno State. Firing Bohl was the right decision.

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Bryan Mohr

This is what's wrong with KU football. Heaven forbid KU hire a strong AD who isn't going to bow down and worship the "good ole boys" club at the expense of football. Roy Williams and Terry Allen were great buddies. So when Bohl fired Allen (20-33) mid-season, Roy was not happy. Roy didn't like the fact that Bohl wasn't going to do everything Roy's way. Roy's extreme displeasure with Bohl and rumors of Roy leaving KU prompted Hemenway to fire Bohl after only 2 years as AD. After firing Allen, Bohl brought in Mangino, which in time proved to be the correct decision for KU football. Terry Allen, on the other hand, went on to coach Missouri State not so successfully (37-64, then finally let go). And good ole Roy, after pulling his weight to have Bohl fired, left town for UNC anyway. Lew Perkins was chosen to replace Al Bohl, and never really liked Mangino, who didn't conform to KU's good-ole boy club. But Mangino was fairly successful, so Perkins was stuck with him. Perkins fired Mangino when he found (created?) the opportunity to do so. And KU football has been absolute rubbish ever since. Al Bohl was accused of treating people like garbage because he fired Allen before the season had ended. Making correct decisions is often unpopular with the good-ole boys. I think Al Bohl was, and is, a good guy http://allenbohl.com . And if you want to talk about "shady dealings", there was some of that under Perkins (ticket scandal). In conclusion, I disagree, firing Al Bohl wasn't the right decision. We'd probably still have Mangino as coach today if Al Bohl was the AD instead of Perkins. There's no way to know. But what I do know is that Al Bohl was responsible for Mangino, and that's the brightest spot in KU football for the past 20 years. Al Bohl was more concerned about KU football than the KU good-ole boys club and that got him crucified.

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Bryce Landon

As I recall, even Mark Mangino disliked Al Bohl.

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Michael Maris

Austin,

I'm not trying to argue, but Beaty did serve as an Offensive Coordinator prior to being named as HC. Granted, it was at Rice University (in 2010) and Co-Offensive Coordinator at Kansas (in 2011). So, he does have OC experience on his resume. Just wanted to clear that up.

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Austin Lopez

Michael,

Thank you for reminding me that slipped my mind. How long was he at rice for again? 1 year? well that was a short stint. And he was a Co-Offensive Coordinator at Kansas in 2011 and also the WR coach? Can you also remind me where both of those offenses ranked while he was on the sideline running plays?

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Michael Maris

Austin,

As I said before, I wasn't trying to start an argument. I was just stating that he has served as an OC. And, I'm fully aware of where the Kansas Offense ranked in 2011. Turner Gill was trying to salvage his job. And, as I recall, people were over joyed with David Beaty being hired by T. Gill to be the WR's Coach and Co-Offensive Coordinator. My, how time changes things.

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Robert Brock

Kansas is going nowhere in football until it gets rid of Dr. Sheahon Zenger. He is a cancer on the game of football.

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Austin Lopez

Can someone tell me why Kansas hired Charlie Weis over Gus Malzahn?????

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John Strayer

None of these changes will happen unless the new Chancellor eats a huge serving of crow or humble pie. He's already give a vote of confidence in both Zenger and Beaty publicly. I certainly hope the $350M in stadium renovation calls for some blue concrete so the stadium looks better on TV than its current grey shade with no bodies in the seats.

I absolutely love KU...but this is starting to feel really hopeless. Campbell and ISU is the perfect example of the target KU has missed since firing Mangino. Yes Mangino's team were starting to decline after the Orange Bowl, but I bet they could have turned it around very quickly and avoid the complete bottoming out the program is mired in right now.

Terrible time to be stuck in this morass if the next round of realignment comes up. Without football, I don't see basketball from being able to completely save the athletic program alone. Welcome to sub- Power 5 athletics, Jayhawks. :(

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Brian Wilson

They definitely would have turned it around. Although the best players were graduating, Mangino at least had recruiting classes that were developing. Everytime we fire a coach a lot of the Juniors and Sophomores leave. By the time Beaty took over he had less than 25 returning Junior and Seniors and less than 60 scholarship players. So right now we have a bunch of transfers and walkons that fill those spots. Normally you would have at least 40 and 85 and they would be legit D1 players. This is the first year we have 75...so if it were me I'm giving Beaty at least one more year if not two. If you fire Beaty now......all the Seniors are gone, out of 35 plus Juniors and Sophomores we will lose at least half and we will be right back where we left off with Weiss. Whiny KU fans jumping the gun. Let this guy have 5 years.

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John Strayer

And top this mess off with this...here is last year's quarterback actually playing a bit better for a different coaching staff:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/...

What is the common denominator in all of this? Too many large salaries and stupid contracts at KU for anyone to step up and do something...anything different. The current status is not working and has not worked in so long.

God forbid Bill Self retires under this current athletics administration. Anyone have faith in that hire with this Chancellor and AD in control?

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Bryce Landon

No, I have no faith. Which is why, despite my angry and immature rants about firing Bill Self for not winning Elite Eight games, I believe Bill Self has to stay, simply because if Zenger hires the next basketball coach, we'll be longing for the days when we were losing in the Elite Eight!

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Ryan Woods

It seems everyone has forgotten how deep a hole KU football was in. They aren't even up to a full roster yet.

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Austin Lopez

I am tired of you fans that say we don't have a full roster and bring up the how big of a whole we were in thing, well lets see we are in year 3 of the Beaty era. 1. It's year 3 and our football team still doesn't know fundamental football, how hard is it for our defense to learn how to tackle? 2. It's been 3 years and we still are playing 2 QBs, and have no clue who the guy is even though I think Carter Stanley should of been giving the chance to start over Bender. 3. Our coaches doesn't know how to use time management and trying to force a scheme "Air Raid" that doesn't fit our roster, 4. We are getting blown out every game, I didn't expect us to win a lot football games but come on I expected us to be competitive, and I could be wrong, correct me if I am but wasn't Beaty and his coaching staff going around talking about a bowl game this year during there Kansas blast recruiting weekend. Do I need to continue?

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Ryan Woods

I definitely agree there are still some coaching problems. But I still think it's an issue of depth. 2nd and 4th quarter are by far KU's worst quarters. On the bright side there are adjustments made at halftime, and KU is outscoring opponents in the quarter. I'm just not ready to hit the reset button again yet.

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Brian Wilson

agree

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Chris DeWeese

But they are closer now than they were a couple of years ago. Should they continue to get blown out by middle of the road B12 teams?

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Ryan Woods

No they shouldn't. Hopefully Carter Stanley can inject some excitement into the offense like he did last year.

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David Kemp

Offense doesn’t matter much when defense allows 600+ yds and gave up 21 pts on 3 first quarter possessions.

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John Strayer

Another year or two of losing and that roster will start going the other direction. How many of the 2018 recruits do you think KU will actually sign in February after going 1-11 this season??

BTW...KU is still in that deep hole. There is no where to go but up.

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Gordon Penny

I'm certainly glad Tom Keegan knows so much about turning around a college football program, or better yet, even running one. How much experience does he have?

Just stop with the drama, Tom, and let the coaches coach. Just because the program doesn't live up to your (uneducated and inexperienced) expectations doesn't mean the coaches aren't doing their job.

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Merrill Reese

Wow, did you watch the game Saturday, or for that matter, any game this year. That first drive by TT would dismissed your comment about the coaches doing their job

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Gordon Penny

One drive does not a coach (or a program) make. Give the guy time. Stop harpooning him. Things are probably going to get worse before they get better. Just expect it.

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Merrill Reese

Please explain to me what constitutes "get worse before they get better" to you

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David Kemp

How about the 2nd drive and 3 rd drive and giving up 8.7 yards per play.

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Chris DeWeese

These coaches get paid a lot of money to produce. I think it's ok to hold them accountable.

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Len Shaffer

Gordon, that is such a ridiculously tired argument about reporters (or fans, for that matter) not having experience turning around a program. So no one should EVER comment on anything unless they have experience with that particular issue? In other words, no sports reporters should ever be hired who haven't played or coached the sport they're covering on the top level. And no political reporter should be hired unless they've actually been a congressperson, senator, etc.? I'm sure you have no opinion on anything that you haven't had a lot of experience with personally, right?

Give me a f***ing break!

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John Brazelton

To Tom Keegan and all poison pen posters: I grant you that Matt Campbell has turned out to be a better football coach than ours. Question: How long will Matt Campbell stay at Iowa State? I will guarantee you that he is already scouting out his next head coaching position in the SEC. The key for KU's football program is can the coaches and players become a competitive team the rest of the season. Once again, almost all of our coaches have been successful at other football programs, primarily OSU, TCU and California. I know that they suddenly did not turn STUPID by arriving at Kansas. We have several key injuries on the offensive side of the ball. Our defensive backfield was extremely inexperienced, has key injuries and very little depth and will only get better by playing games. Our special teams have stabilized and are playing, not great, but okay. If at the end of the season, IF our assistant coaches start leaving in droves for other programs and our recruits start de-committing and signing with other programs, then everyone will know that all is lost.

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Marius Rowlanski

Guess we need to find our own version of Bill Snyder. Shouldn't be too hard.

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Bryce Landon

We found him - his name was Mark Mangino. He worked for Snyder at one point. And we threw him away. I don't know that we can find another one.

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Aaron Paisley

Wasn't going to be Mangino either. KU was going to be 5-7 win team most seasons with occasional better and occasional worse seasons. Snyder is consistently 8+ wins a year.

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Joe Ross

I often disagree with your pessimistic view of KU athletics, but here you're spot on. Mangino WAS our guy. He kept KU football respectable and exceeded expectations. We were robbed of a win against Texas and Mangino called it out.

Mangino was this program's Savior. And we crucified him. (Lew Perkins played the part of Pontias Pilate.)

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David Friend

I will keep posting this until more people get behind this. Stop with the excuses for the HC. Well into year three of the "former wide receivers coach" experiment. It is not working and not going to work. Yes we a were in a bad hole. But no worse than UCF and UAB (whom had no program) and numerous other programs. Unless we turn this football program around to respectability we could be left out in the cold when there is (and there will be) another realignment. Spend real money and get a guy who can truly recruit and knows how to run a big time football program. Quite frankly the Big 12 is not great right now and it should not take us long to be competitive in the conference. $350 million is about to be spent. Spend $6 million more a year and get a true college football coach. We can feed Chip Kelley's ego and give him a chance to have one of the great turnarounds in college football. You can bring Chris Kleiman back to Lawrence. He only has built North Dakota St into the greatest 1AA program in college football history. NDSU would beat us buy at least 20. There are several names we could probably get if we pay the right salary. And if we turn this thing around there will be ROI on the salary. But David Beaty is not working out. Let's move on.

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Marius Rowlanski

I know where we can find a good O-Line coach.

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Titus Canby

Bishop Miege?

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Samer Adra

"If Campbell and his coaches can somehow devise a game plan sound enough to slip past Kansas in Ames next week..."

Hahaha, that was pretty good, Keegan.

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John Fitzgerald

I'm curious who you guys think should and could replace Beaty? And I'm looking for realistic answers.

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Bryan Mohr

Scott Frost, Brent Venables, Troy Calhoun, Les Miles, Greg Schiano, Mike Norvell, Jason Candle, Blake Anderson, Bo Pelini, Craig Bohl, Mark Mangino. Or how about the coaches from the MAC schools that beat us? (Frank Solich, Bonamego). And don't talk about "they'll never come to KU". If KU can raise $350 million for a new stadium (that will be empty), they can raise enough money to lure a decent coach. Money changes minds.

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John Fitzgerald

Anything is possible I guess...

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Gunnar Hays

I think Bryan listed some really good names there. Some probably more realistic than others, but a solid list for sure. I would also add a few more (not saying they would come to KU, but who I think would be worth taking a look at): David Cutcliffe, Tony Elliott, Mike Houston, Jerry Kill, and a couple of possible wild cards being Don Brown and Jeff Jagodzinski. Both Brown and Jag have somewhat unconventional coaching pasts but have won at the D1 level. I also like Brown because he has done great with Michigan D and KU really needs an identity on that side of the ball. Thats just the top of my head though, I'm sure we could list possible coaches all day but I think there is a real possibility Beaty gets one more year.

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Mike Nicco

Mason did inherit as big a mess as Beaty. Who remembers the Bob Valesente era? Mason did have more players initially but they were not D1 caliber. What Mason did have vs Beaty was head coaching experience.

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Len Shaffer

Good point, Mike. I remember only two well the sad years of Valesente.

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Cora Smith

I don't think comparing the Iowa State coach and the situation at Kansas is a fair comparison. Iowa State has never been as low as Kansas and has a better tradition. They are also not as dominant is basketball and have somewhat of a mediocre balance. Kansas is all in on basketball and it infuriates me when they start promoting Late Night in the Phog in September.Lew Perkins is responsible for this mess. His personal vendetta against Mangino set all of this in motion. I am glad Mangino is finally getting some love. I think Beaty is a good ambassador for the University and I hope he gets his five years (Mangino had 7 if I recall correctly).

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Chris Bailey

"If Campbell and his coaches can somehow devise a game plan sound enough to slip past Kansas in Ames next week, that will make ISU’s record 4-2,"

Hand me a Big Chief pad and some crayons and I can devise a game plan to beat KU. I don't think that would be too difficult a task.

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Jack Hoff

As someone else on here said... the Iowa State situation and the Kansas situation are completely different. No comparison at all. Kansas might have been the worst Division 1 football team in history at the time Beaty took over. You're not gonna make that into a bowl team over night. Also a lie that there hasn't been progress. Offense and special teams have stabilized. They have done enough thus far to win 3 games. Defense has been a mess and let them down.

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Brian Wilson

Depth is the issue.....have you ever tried to learn 200 plays as and Offensive Right guard and then tried to figure out your responsibility against all the 3-4, 4-3 defenses and all all their variants just to get put in the game at Left guard and be expected to know that side of the line as well. Or maybe even being switched to tackle when you've been studying and working to be a guard? When the team is this low on depth, and you are filling holes with freshman, walkons and transfers.....what do you expect. Depth is everything. When you are Texas Tech and can afford to keep most players at his position all four years.....by the time they are Seniors they know what the hell they are doing. God forbid us leaving a coach in place long enough for that to happen or for him to recruit four full classes before passing judgement. This is all about team depth.....and knowing the plays and the system so well you could play the game in your sleep. Instead you all expect a turn around to happen in two years when we are playing with Junior and Senior tiddly winks - walkons and transfers. Beatty needs two more years to fill the stable and break in the horses. Leave him alone.

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Waylon Cook

ISU is a stepping stone for him.. Can we find a coach like that ?

Even though Fedora is having a down year, it is amazing to think he waiting on the phone call. Instead Zenger waited for Charlie to wheel over to the phone on his rascal.

The funny thing about Bowen? His defense sucks, but when he was interim coach he actually showed flashes that he would be a good head coach. If Zenger was going to make a 2nd hire. Bowen actually made sense at the time. Zenger and Mike Leach were supposed to be tight? Did the pirate even get a courtesy call? He took literally one of the worst jobs in D1 football and now is in the top 10.

Disgusting to think Zenger can be so arrogant and clueless that we are watching him in a fish bowl

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Randy Bombardier

Give Beaty two more years and there will be no reasonable excuse for not getting to 5 or 6 wins by then. But i still say should things not work out we fire or distance the AD from the new hire. Meanwhile, Go Navy!

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